Sitting with him felt like stepping into a lineage of thought that has been refined over decades. We talked about what it really means to train the body as an integrated system. Why physical pain is rarely just physical. And how lifestyle, stress, and belief patterns shape the way tissue adapts—or fails to. What I appreciated most is his insistence on responsibility. On teaching people how to think, not just what to do. This episode is about zooming out far enough to see the full system, and then getting precise about how to work within it. If you’re ready to move beyond surface-level fixes—this conversation will challenge you in the right way.