As the creator of the Body Lever he is obsessed with how real mobility is trained and maintained safely. Steve is a strength and conditioning coach with a deep curiosity about fascia, recovery, and regeneration. His work, and obsessions, bridge science and sensation, helping athletes retrain movement patterns through awareness, primal tools, and connective tissue intelligence. One of my favorite moments in the conversation was when we started talking about the future of gyms. Both of us are seeing the same shift happening: athletes learning new patterns through outdoor, ancient movements. He predicts training environments becoming more exploratory, and far more intelligent. We talk about injury as a teacher, the overlooked role of flexibility, lag force in movement, breath as a tool for pain management, and why recovery might be the most important training skill of all. If you’re curious about where fitness is heading, this conversation will expand your thinking.